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How to improve on Maori representation and participation at next Nethui
July 3, 2011
2:26 am
Lin Nah
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June 27, 2011

Nethui was a wonderful event. Unfortunately there some room for improvement. Some tweets I picked up from the #nethui stream indicate there are those who felt there should be more maori representation and participation at nethui.

While I am NOT an organiser, board member or even speaker at nethui, I'd like to start up a discussion here on the issue to better understand what the issues are. Twitterverse is not an appropriate place to have a meaningful discussion. 140 chars is inadequate. So let's have a proper discussion. I am hoping those organising the next nethui will listen and take on board what is being discussed...

Here's an example of a few tweets:

@EconomicsNZ: Waitangi Tribunal - 'Maori...sidelined from decisions over their culture' Maori lacked full representation at @LawGeekNZ: as one who raised original price issue, disappointed at Maori/pacifika numbers but not for want of trying cc   [Source

@JimWhitman  : GREAT price. Made it v easy/possible for me to attend. Thank you. 'Participation' not as simple as u may believe [Source]

@EconomicsNZ: GREAT price. Made it v easy/possible for me to attend. Thank you. 'Participation' not as simple as u may believe   [Source]

@Kaupapa: +1 on sorting the price. full participation suggests seats at top table. barriers exist, needs work [Source]

@HTDM: ": :: why do you say 'Maori lacked full representation at '" I agree! Tangata whenua were there [Source]

@EconomicsNZ: i thought it was a great event. Pakeha facing is the way i'd describe part of my experience. Thoughts for next ? [Source]


I believe InternetNZ may have tried to ensure maori is heard by including Richard Orzecki, in the 2011 nethui advisory board.  He is the chair of the Maori internet society and the Deputy Chair of the New Zealand Maori Council. Surely he would have pointed out what the problems are and ensured greater maori participation.


There's multiple issues here.

a. What are the barriers towards greater maori attendance at future nethui?

b. How can maori participation at future nethui be improved?

c. What are the issues unique to maori (and their use of the internet) that have not been discussed at nethui?


I invite all concerned with this problem to have a respectful discussion about this.

Thanks. Lin




July 3, 2011
8:12 am
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July 3, 2011

Thanks for starting this thread. More participation by Maori (and Pasifika, Asian, etc. communities) at future NetHuis would be great.


At NetHui 2011, the inadequate presence wasn't for a lack of trying. So what works to get greater participation is a welcome discussion.


There was one insight from the Advisory Board that was very helpful which may be relevant for c- don't segregate and have discussions or sessions about "Maori issues" (or, for that matter, "women issues", "youth issues", etc.). Each of these groups have a unique perspective which needs to be discussed as an integral part of multi-dimensional discussions.


I thought this insight was spot on. The world is complex and over-simplifying it can be misleading.


So let's focus on encouraging greater diversity of participation.


It's fine to look at specific communities. But let's not turn that into a splintered discussion that implies some communities have unique "issues". For example, some "Maori issues" are in fact issues related to the digital divide, rural isolation, cultural diversity, etc. Let's have a Maori perspective on, say, the digital divide rather than discuss it as a "Maori issue".


My 2 cents...



CE, InternetNZ  
July 4, 2011
1:25 pm
Karaitiana Taiuru

This is my personal opinion only.

Considering I have never seen the Māori Council involved with digital Māori Issues, i assume this is not an area they concentrate their expertise and efforts on.

There are two Māori Internet Societies, and a few other special interest Māori Internet groups. Net Hui had Māori representation from an organisation that is dormant, and has no voting members. Moreover, I am told by one of the registered executive, that there is just two people who make the decisions with no consultation. This maybe the first issue.

Secondly, Net Hui was not widely discussed or debated on any major on-line Māori media that i am aware of.  I only heard about Net Hui, as i am an InternetNZ member. I consider myself to be heavily involved with Māori on-line developments and issues, and have been so for over a decade. Even as recently as last week, I was interviewed on a Māori Radio station about a Māori On-line project, and was asked for my opinion on several projects, Net Hui was not one of them. This may have only been the person interviewing me, as opposed to a reflection of the station and Net Hui publicity.


Thirdly, the main issues Māori face, and discuss online, are not being duiscussed and debated at Net Hui, nor was there any widespread consultation that I am aware of.


Lastly, I agree with some of Vikram's points. Some of the issues Māori face, are shared with all on-line users, and could be spread across other topics. But, I also think that other issues Māori face, could be included in a general discussion for minority cultures that reside in NZ.



Karaitiana Taiuru



July 4, 2011
1:33 pm
Forum Posts: 9
Member Since:
June 25, 2011

As a long-time member of the Māori Internet Society, and a participant at the very significant Hui Taumata of 2005 where the next 20 years of Māori economic development was plotted and from which the Hui Taumata Taskforce was established, I can say that as a Māori woman there was nothing about NetHui that left me feeling I needed to articulate a specifically  Māori or woman's view.

IMO, issues that were discussed at NetHui are no different for Māori than for any other people in New Zealand. The digital divide impacts on socio-economic groups rather than any particular ethnic group. Rural access is an issue for everyone in a rural environment. Data caps and connectivity affect everyone equally, as does emerging technology, and copyright, privacy and legal issues. Economic development for Māori is linked with the development of the economy as a whole. As a tool for productivity and economic development, the Internet is important to Māori but arguably no less important to any other group within NZ society.

The structure of this gathering of minds is ideally suited to Māori participation. Hui is a great way to engage people and hear different perspectives. This NetHui paved a path for future discussions and the success of this first one is likely to encourage greater participation by Māori leaders in future NetHui.

I personally didn't view Māori participation at this NetHui as either inadequate or lacking representation of Māori views. Perhaps, if a question had been asked, "who here is Māori and involved with Māori economic development or Māori organisations?" the number of us there may have been more obvious Wink


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